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Is a Churchmonger All Right? A Slave-Maker?
Do not automatically consider healthy others your inferiors out of deep fears, and avoid looking smugly up to yourself out of "Jesusian" mental defects or illness: Being sound is wiser. Stop hoping that the hardened psychopath will improve. Take care of your own business instead; that should work better. It is regularly better to be healthy than mentally ill, better to be a healthy human than a sick, herded flock animal (conformist), better to be fair than a deceiver and hypocrite. And it may get dangerous to be misled by crazy cheats that flock together like birds of a feather in vital matters. Do not let it be on your behalf: The chances are you cannot afford it or had better use your resources for worthy ends instead. According to modern diagnoses one could assert that Jesus is mega-insane. There is appropriate bible evidence for such a tentative outlook. When you suspect psychopathy in some sect leader or adamant, incoherent freak, reduce your involvement as fast as you can. The hardened psychopath cannot get well and may not be good if thwarted. If you have growing suspicions about how sane your nearest sect boss is, and the boss on top of him again, do not stop at that. Get free.
The Essence of the ForegoingMany get kidnapped and brain-battered in cults and sects these days. Many get scarred for life, for many sects and cults are causes or cribs of mental illnesses and suicides. Each year some hundred thousands get kidnapped by a parent in the United States, and some are engulfed in various sects. There are not just Christian sects and cults, but they flourish in the States.You could find when you come to age that you are one of many million kidnapped children, that your sect mom has lied to your face for decades to keep control and get away with torturous mismanagement and stubborn entanglements of innocents in the name of Jesus - that rich Father - or is he? You could realise that your mom is a sect monger - what then? The best is not to be one of their number, but be guarded careful throughout as you disentangle yourself and get onto firmer ground without being the victim of added squeezes and squeemishness. That could help, considering that some sectarians are not just ruthless fools and mad criminals, but some are also capable of killing believer fools in scores. It happened in Jonestown, for example, and there are still more recent examples. Many religious people may be dangerous people. Wars attest to that. Note if you do not thrive in the company of religious gangs and get out of them with as little turmoil as can be. Be firm and even stern for it. But you are not called to be stentorian. There may be time later to say what you think about the sect, its leaders, the one(s) who brought you there so that a good future seems almost impossible, due to inner troubles and scars and scares in your face. Realise who brought you into the sect or cult in the first place, and "reward" the insane culprit for her making strangled victims out of you by dropping contact with her for good. But consider your own future and do not choke the mad culprit in a fit of justice. "She is not worth going to jail for on top of the other damage she has done me," you need to decide. Value yourself that well, if not much better. Help is found in the firm, solid, and welcoming arms of Buddhism - and there is safety in both numbers and money. Consider before you leave: "The nasty culprit was a mere guitar that was played in the hands of the Boss." - not Bruce Springsteen. That is polite and may hit the mark too. Face It
The Boss and His Mind-Battering that is Called OK
Many ruthless conformists show ape-conduct. Apes like chimpanzees are authoritarian-ridden and threatening cannibals where they see a chance to get away with murder. Many religious persons make a life-style out of being authoritarian-bent conformists and not straighter than apes. Their conformist and "meta-cannibalistic" rituals and ceremonialism suit them, for otherwise those rituals and practices would have been discarded, and that is the "fate" of most of the unwelcome elements of Christianity, such as ripping your eyes out for seeing interesting things around. Those who take to threatening youngsters to vomit evil spirit into a night pot - "the demon pot" - excel in such ape conduct. It is nothing to be fond of for a human. Another mark of the sectarian is the willingness to forego next to everything in the gospels to be served by the cult and sect and abide by the gorilla on top - and lying and theft and so on. Some live to discard others without a trace of normal conscience. Expect that. They hinder free enough play, they limit young ones to have their own ways - controlling and manipulating and deceiving if they see they can get something from it. Some psychopaths are excellent in psyching out victims. Christianity itself chose to take tender ones when they were infants and bend them early by baptism without consent. This macabre ritual goes on in very many churches. It was made to serve Bosses on a large scale during the reign of Charlemagne (742-814); it was a power-enforcing measure against the common practice in earlier Christianity or the gospels. Infant baptism infringes on the liberties of humans. And when "salvation bandits" play on the easily aroused emotions of youths, they do can do much harm too. The hurt is manipulation for power - enrolling paying members - through recruiting "young blood" and whatever. As member it is possible to wither and get reduced and dwarfed a whole lot. Saying masses will help nothing against mayhem on the free spirit of children and young ones: religious and crank indoctrination is widespread. To misuse the trusting, id-based faith of children to form sick bonds is disgusting. Top-dog RiddenThe cult and sect sees it fit to discard that and as good as anything else in the Bible on which it stands on Sunday sermons to dupe the crew - as long as the cult or sect is served by Mammon, brain-battered little children, power and phoney prestige. You could expect that.Surely the sect seems to blame, but what about your bad mom who got you in there and had you abused and brain-shrinked, impoverished and perverted for all those long years? What about the Mad Boss? Is she one of a triad, is she one or two or three? And why not four, since we are into counting a lot and alternate sexes?
Remember His WarningsMake a long story short: Watch out for Jesus and his infirm grace that serves criminals and vicious psychopaths that deserve punishment, and which aggravates and mar conditions for good people the world over. To go through all the Scriptural evidence is the least you can do to resolve the questions. Jesus in the end wanted to dominate everybody and take what was not rightfully his [Matthew, three last verses].Jesus admits he is a no-good fellow when he rather bluntly says: "Why do you call me good? Nobody is . . . ". Many followers disregard his warnings and think they can live well. But he established - given all power, it says - that his followers had to suffer. In science you may launch a tentative suspicion and do it well too. It is perfectly all right. What is needed is to be careful, reserved or guarded, and not suggesting more than there is some evidence for. Slight evidence is also evidence, but requires more tentative statements and more guarded handling, in all likelihood. If you get the suspicion that the sect maker Jesus was a fraud and psychopath in his day, before the Jewish authorities had him executed by Romans, are there any good signs he has he become any better now, "after all these years"? We look into that. But remember to be guarded in making use of the stuff. Not everybody has a whole set of qualifications (reservations) to back up each and any statement. We do, and for our own good. There is more to add to that, too: How to diagnose mental disorders is not a very advanced in our days. Diagnosing work is on a labelling level, and the handling knowhow is often missing or bad or too crude to matter to more sensitive types.
Let us say you think it is worthy to act contrary to Buddha's firm and fit counsel of giving to deserving ones. Influenced by dwarfing teachings you try to "Do good to those who hate you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and . . . do not demand it back. [Luke 6:27-30]." Note His Insistent Demands for Self-molestations and Self-Sacrifice TooInterestingly, and not only for his Christian fare, a masochist is someone who is good to a sadist, and the other way round. You should get better than living according to that. At least try.The teachings of Jesus are quite ideal for thieves and other thieves, brutal bullies on fillies - but not for nice and decent people who may need their homes instead of having them robbed by "God's word". In fact, there is every reason to uphold that those who live as Jesus commanded his own, do their share in fostering a corrupt society, a den of robbers, thieves and bullies. That is what Christianity is for: for outsmarting good people far and wide. There is a possibility that the network a person is in (his "loom", so to speak), outweighs a single person in his efforts, so that his strivings become like those of others, as a matter of conformity rather than ideal tact. So watch your company. Where the whole society is not good, a healthy individual may be branded as ill, without cure, or with cures that may not help. There is good reason to choose good congenial company if you are a "pluss deviant" as Abraham Maslow calls those singular persons he identified as different from the lot, better than sheep. Such people may or many not get a bad name by the bleating lot. Many that have a good reputation, depend a whole lot on others for it. See How far You Can Go before God Breaks His ContractThe Libanese-American philosopher-poet Khalil Gibran (1883-1931) writes in The prophet: "When the black thread breaks, the weaver shall look into the whole cloth, and he shall examine the loom also."It is an outlook that is more holistic than most of the common definitions that seeks to put the blame mostly on one, telling nothing about his conditions, bad contacts, and so on. The Scottish psychiatrist Ronald D. Laing holds it too. In this wider perspective, maybe the pheasant who lives in fear next to a mafia boss in hiding, needs to get rid of his talkative wife (!) - this drastic solution could help both him and her, after all . . . If he does, he may feel a bit of guilt, though. Much bad may start with guilt. The Swiss psychiatrist Medard Boss makes a point of this: If a person feels guilt - many do - it could be it is because they are guilty. Maybe it is best to confirm that the Italian 'mafia' means family, and Jesus wants all his follower to be an obedient family, or . . . There are many threats around. Some are written in the Bible. In other words, Boss takes a tentative look at guilt as something more than a factor or thing to handle, seeks to go beyond it and probe into what the guilt is about - why it is there in the first place. Maslow's findings indicate that mature people feel guilt about falling short too, not only doing something ugly, amoral, damaging, and dispensing with one's wife or breaking marriage promises and others. In other words, if you feel guilt, maybe you should check the reasons for it, and if some misdeed stands out, try to remedy it as soon and good as you can, or things may get worse, grow out of hand, and maybe psychopathology set in and worsen too, for what we know.
"Jesus and other cult founders breed confusion"Jesus was called a blasphemer, son of the devil (evil), insane, and executed as a criminal by the authorities. And the apostle Paul tells you to abide by the authorities: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. [Rom 13:1]." Christians give him lip service as it serves them, often ignoring that the authorities got rid of Jesus and wanted no Christianity at all.We have explored how far the Bible gives evidence that Jesus has this and that mental disease by now. Just think of Jesus as you read the entries in the long lists above, and consider how stunningly he conforms to nearly all of them. Think of a many-headed hydra, such a water snake, visualise the many heads of him: it is the Bible that bears witness of him, and contemporary psychiatry that makes use of them. How far such investigations can be undertaken profitably may be debated, and what critiera to include in the symptoms attributed to Jesus too. And one is to beware of projecting marks of illness onto another in another culture. Just make do with stating something like "according to significant indicators, the biblical sect maker Jesus does share many characteristics with mentally disordered and deranged people." Many followers of Jesus claim they have him inside themselves. through what is called mystic faith. There are many of them, and the vistas that open up are quite alarming at last. If you have a tapeworm inside, it is not good, either. You are the host and not the one who is benefitted by it. Be alert along such a line of thinking, and not just his own caution: "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick . . . "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." [Matthew 9:12-13]" There should be no doubt about that either - that any Christian is a sickly sheep, even though present-day diagnoses in rich, so-called Christian nations ignore the facts - and falsify much too, for the sake of power, discipline and much else that goes against Maslow's "good people" - self-actualisers - and their needs. Say no to becoming a deeply infected, unlucky sheep. Vicarious sacrifice or scapegoating is not healthy. Accepting it should be considered a sign of mental troubles, and scapegoating is already considered that in psychiatry. But has it got the place it deserves now? No. Say no to conform breeding, leeching of inborn, own value on one's own behalf, Eigenwert, not ideally healthy, and bad company if he suffers from something contageous. [Also: John 21:16, Matthew sth] Reveal the cult's coercion, internal control, pressures and outright lies. Do not ignore and forsake the obvious just because cult members use the words "God" and "holy" and threaten by such means. It may be as expected if the words criminal ever makes a point of being God himself, not just God's equal. The latter approach was that of the devil, according to the Bible, the first approach - well, there is much to say about it, both good and bad, in fact. The gospel's Jesus takes to chimerical visions of the end of time - which did not come when the apostles said, even though they were supposed to have the right spirit. Jesus insists that followers must be taught to obey his commands. Matthew end, late addition, though. But all the apostles and the Holy Ghost found that unfit, and dispensed with them [Acts 15; 21:25]. See how they followed Jesus: Out of concern for Gentile followers they dispensed with as good as everything Jesus said, telling that for Gentile followers there were only four requirements. four things are required of Gentile followers, the tradition's Christians, then. No to eating blood food is one of the four items on the list, and almost every sick sheep in the north seems to ignore it. Could that be because of a mental illness, or an inner, repressed urge to have oneself condemned to hell in the end, after perhaps totally undeserved grace for years, thereby helping injustice further on and up? You may not be able to decide on such highly emotionally charged issues. Take it as a chance to remember the fate of Jan Huss, and keep your mouth shut. Most of his sayings were meant for Jews only. He wanted to relate to them as a hen to her chickens, but Jews proved him wrong: they had him executed. They could not have been neither his sheep nor chickens for it, despite all he had said to the contrary. Insistence is not enough. [John 10:14; 10:26-27]. In the end he asked Peter - not Paul - to take care of his sheep. And as we have been into, Peter and all the other apostles - and the Holy Ghost - dispensed with enormous amounts of what Jesus had said for Jews. Now . [Acts 15; 21:25] He says so much, this Jesus: "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. But I tell you, Elijah has already come [Matthew 17:11-12]." Hm. He appears to say, "He who has come, comes." To add to the disgrace, once on a time he and disciples were on mount when God and Elijah appeared, but not any beheaded John the Baptist.. He who sacrifices healthy persons, oversteps. "I am making everything new! . . . these words are trustworthy and true [Revel 21:5]" is not the same as "I make all things perverted", is it? "The broad mass of a nation . . . will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one." [Adolf Hitler, Oq 223] Fascists blamed their countries' problems on scapegoats. Jews causes major problems, they claimed. [Merriam-Webster, Ebu "scapegoat", "fascism"] In psychology scapegoating is tied in with neuroticism. Scapegoating with butchering innocents for the sins of guilty ones, is blatantly corrupt - and the cornerstone of Judaism and Christianity, by the way. Insanity is unreasonable, much as other severe mental diseases, and may be uncurable. Take heed of your company, therefore. Buddha warns against being among fools, not unlike the proverb "Stay away from fools that you may not be among their number". Refrain from using the criteria to harm people. Is nasty provocation a reliable part of a test? That can be debated. It is an infringement on human rights, and being provocative is not really good. It may be part of a psychiatrist's moves. Another quite doubtful approach is illustrated by Ludwig Binswanger who wrote a psychoanalytic study of a person based on her diary. The Case of Ellen West. He analysed her from her diary outpourings. The psychodynamically oriented Erik H. Erikson did the same with Martin Luther; he wrote an insightful book about him. Why not Jesus? Because he claimed so hard to be God that he was willing to be executed for it? Because his version, not that of his local authorities, came so far in the end? In the case of Jesus, four gospels and letters speak of him and put words in his mouth, suggesting they are verbatim. They may or may not not. There are excellent chances they are not, since nobody was told to take down notes when he talked, and we have no indication that anybody did it on the spot either. Retold and retold sayings and tales is what the gospels offer. There is a source of error right there. The evidence is not first-class. Admit that, and put no literal faith in anything of the gospels, just to be safer. After all, the four requirements for non-Jewish Christians are in Acts 15; 21:25, and no to blood food (black pudding, and the like is one of the four pillars. Seeing is believing. Mind that even though many sheep say they believe totally or blindly in thesayings of Jesus, do they? Or better: Do they have to?. No. They never pluck out their eyes after buying TVs, for example, or tear off their limbs for harbouring desires he wants nothing of among his sheep. They "follow with their lips", but know better than do more than that. They fake it, in short. And the irony or tragedy is they are not required to be such hypocrites. They just have to stand by the deal for Gentile followers in so far as they are non-Jewish. In this connection it may be said bluntly: It is not the lack of foreskin that makes the Jew. If you grandfather had made an incision in his foreskin for medical reasons, that did not make him a Jew either. Instead the gang Christian goes for Mammon, wealth and influence. And in his heart is the guiding spirit for that, if you understand it as the New Testament tells it was going to be. Not all who are called normal are that. Not all get a fit and fair reputation. It works both ways. Some are called God by some billion people, others are put into asylums for less drastic, grandious claims they do not live up to or do not get back-up for. After all, the reputation of Jesus changed only because of the back-up his claims were allotted later, throughout centuries. Much can be said against baptising little children, against duping little ones in the name of a branded blashpemer (according to the authorities that one should obey, according to the apostle Paul). In the end we can conclude, much as Maslow: Not everyone that is called bad is perfectly good, and vice versa. To be considered all right or normal among sick sheep and Christians - shudder. Maslow's adequate persons are not like them. Aspire towards being an adequate person, then. As we have mentioned, in testing mental sides of Mshikha Jeshua, we have to decide how valid it is to cry "In the name of Jesus" when that word is a translation from Jeshua. The followers were quick to dispense with his language too- it was Aramaic, most likely. God's language was not good enough for his own. Note it well. "A test is reliable to the extent that it measures consistently", it is pointed out. [Ebu "psychological testing"] Here we study "the Bwana" by referring to assorted check lists of mental disorders. The Norwegian psychiatrist, professor Tollak Sirnes has written books about mental health and psychopaths. They have no normal sense of shame. They lie shamelessly and disregard others, their property, their lives, their heart feelings, and what they own. They can be expert at feigning, and misusing the overbearance, kindness and goodness of others. Psychopaths may not be healed, and their deceptions may go on a long, long time. It is a mistake to try to help such cases. Staying away from them works better, for most part. Psychopaths are the dangerous loonies., making victims of mates, their family, and children, even. [Toh] Watch out for Jesus and his crime-bent, crime-fostering sheeps. The Jews shouted in unison they preferred to let a robber live rather than him. You should note that. ON
"There are other mental illnesses to judge him by too"We will not give you details and references from the scripture in the list. Find them yourself. Suffice to say here that Jesus was called insane, blasphemous and demon-possessed and publicly executed as a criminal against contemporary law.As part of a Great Tyrant Scheme, did he stand up as a whipper of people in the Roman Empire after he had served his turn as a "whipping boy"? The fact is that four millions of them were killed in Colosseum alone, and there were many other theatres in the empire around the Mediterranean Ocean. The dictating Jesus has not finished yet, the believers say. He will come and "whip more, more, and even better" is the credo of most believers. Their faith is that "the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky." [Matthew 24:30] Interestingly, the Second Coming is a time for mourning. Do not look forward to being hated either. Further, the gospels contain very many hints that he had a marked obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, but that is not all of it. There are other mental illnesses to judge him by too, just as the mind doctors in Norway, Denmark and Sweden do. Banding and branding with Jesus must be bad to the degree that "birds of a feather (and also ill sheep) flock together". When it comes to mental disorders and derangements, things are seldom clear-cut. What an expert has to do, is to base his wary analysis on quite typical conduct more than stray sayings, of course. Recurrent actions do speak louder than words. As for words, often-repeated words should carry more weight than stray ones. There could be exceptions to that, though. The Good Doctor uses the hallmarks of the checklist and counts hits as he sees them. If he is very qualified, he masters to weigh at least some of the parameters too. If not, the rough estimate is that over five markings on the list seem to "make Jesus qualified" as a psychopathic ass - inflicting torture on innocents and the like. When the Jesus you hear of scores on at least five points of the list, beware. The Jews that condemned him to death and rather would have a highwayman saved, might have said he suffered from a compulsive mental disorder and put him in an asylum back then, but there were not qualified diagnostics and nurses around, it may be said with much assurance. Here the main point is that if you want to diagnose him and others better, more safely and properly, try to weigh the different scores on the measurement scale - in addition to and often over and above a "yes." to that "he wanted "be ye perfect as his Father (who was like himself, he says) and inflexible enough to get himself crucified". That is a main criterion, the heading, so to speak for this kind of disorder. Jesus looks greatly marked by submission harshness, excessive and in part morbid morality (cut off your hand if it offends you mentally and such things); and strong wants and demands for control of those around him. We seem to have a nasty one here. "Why do you call me good?" he keeps asking through the gospel . . . [Mark 10:18] Well, would you know. As a quip has it, "An expert is someone from out of town":. Similarly, it might take a psychometrist from another culture than a Jesus-submissive sect to assess that he scores on 7 out of 9 clues, and finalises the issue with a candid "shoo." in the officially sanctioned ways. However, the "I am God" claimant (Jesus, in this case) has reached the status of God - held up by a public majority in many folks, and being hated by the public is something the doctor may shy away from. So was Jesus one more megalomaniac who thought highly about himself and wanted others do to it too? How can you find out? Authoritarian figures and especially tyrants - and a lot of those who play their "game" as conform underdogs - may be bullies. And many a bully is a coward within, it is held by many. Mind heartfelt feelings in filling in your scores of Jesus. Experience counts a lot. Accordingly, fair and bright insiders could know best "where the shoe pinches". Be open to that possibility, at least. You may not get exactly the same score as an expert "from out of town", but the gospel facts add up to some great and sinister signs of a megalomaniac of inflexible, dogmatic mind, or a compulsive personality disorder. He "gambled and lost". Neighbouring peoples were to pay the price of Jesus afterwards. For if he had really atoned for the sins of all, as some so fondly thing, why on earth the millions of martyrs? His salvation may seem like a trick from the book of a crook. One more reason to suspect that is that it does not contain the repeated promise of getting wealth as a sign of God's blessing and approval. Wealth (mammon) is really a good thing in a life. It fits upright, sensible people. Mark the demands of impoverishments by Jesus run contrary to God's blessings, then. One of them: "I will keep my covenant with you. You will still be eating last year's harvest when you will have to move it out to make room for the new [Lev 26:9-10]." See also Deut 30:16-17; 31:29 etc.] When using the items of a test like the one above, what we are doing is to allot scores to someone. Ideas and sentiments that were scattered, can be unified by such an approach, to the end that we get a much better phenomenological grasp on things that are ill defined or difficult to get to grips with at first. Feel free to divide your responses a little bit better than yes-no if you please. This makes weighing the scores much more sensible, and not much more difficult. It can be fun too. Five different responses, such as "Yes indeed. Yes. Neutral or perhaps. No. Blatant no." may do the work. Give them the numbers 5-4-3-2-1 and add up. This interesting practice is basically subjective. But when several persons apply this Likert scale to the road test of Jesus, the end result is more inter-subjectivity, which can be helpful. Much depends on
Branding by unqualified people does amount to Sachlichkeit in this scenario. Laypersons should refrain from labelling one another satanic and blasphemous and insane - Jesus should have learnt that too. He was treated as it in his day, and hanged on a cross till he died. It is only wisdom (sensible) to stay carefully away from someone you suspect to be apsychopath after living among his or her adherents and faking followers and studying that one for years. Among laypersons and professionals, there is much confusion about the meanings and differences of the labels used. The official stance of the American Psychiatric Association as presented in the DSM-IV-TR is that psychopathy and sociopathy are obsolete synonyms for antisocial personality disorder. The World Health Organization takes a similar stance in its ICD-10 by referring to psychopathy, sociopathy, antisocial personality, asocial personality, and amoral personality as synonyms for dissocial personality disorder. For all these reasons and more, indicators of psychopathology in someone are to be interpreted carefully. At least a number of them need to be present over a period of years. The childhood of Jesus cannot be studied, nor the true reasons for his "compensating, invented father substitute". That is a possible, alternative hypothesis. See if you find these and other hallmarks confirmed in children:
MangalamIn this collection of articles we have treated the SRF guru Jesus - It stands out to us that the gurus of SRF cheat beginners by claiming to be in league with Jesus, often acting against central words of his in the Bible. If they cheat and lie, do not consider them above you. Aspire to that. If they do not cheat and lie, duck. For Jesus and his church and the spirit(s) that guides it, may be overly deceitful, even psychopaths. You know these psychopaths, they live to hurt and derange others. Better stay away from them and be on the safe side.Thank you for airing these tentative probings, you too, in your own way. The next on-line book is about Bhagavan Krishna. It means Lord Krishna. Hare Krishna and Sri Krishna are often seen too. Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita that he has no duty and still acts. Well, that would be his business. USER'S GUIDE to abbreviations, the site's large bibliography, letter codes, dictionaries, site design and navigation, tips for searching the site and page referrals. [LINK] DISCLAIMER: To help us out: [LINK] © 19982007, T. Kinnes. All rights reserved. [E-MAIL] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||