Massa Jesus My Foot - Road Test

• Road test of Massa Jesus
• A Diagnostic Test -

Road test of Massa Jesus

Undiagnosed psychopaths and hypocrites came to bring division by deceptions and the like.

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

There is no simple definition of mental disorder that is universally satisfactory. This is partly because mental states or behaviour that are viewed as abnormal or pathological in one culture may be regarded as normal or acceptable in another, and in any case it is difficult to draw a line clearly demarcating healthy from pathological mental functioning. [Ebu "mental disorder"]

"Jesus and other cult founders breed confusion"

He who sacrifices healthy persons, oversteps

Be not Made an Unlucky Sheep through the Fraud of Others

Insanity: Towards a General Understanding

• A deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia);
• A mental disorder; a grave disorder of mind that impairs one's capacity to function safely or normally in society;
• Such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil responsibility;
• More loosely: extreme folly or unreasonableness, in other words something utterly foolish or unreasonable.

• Understandings of just what is health is not clear-cut.
• Being sentimental is seldom a problem.
• Neuroses may or may not be cured.
• While more severe mental diseases may be reach of contemporary methods of treatment.

Test of Jesus

Is nasty provocation a reliable part of a road test?

Jesus seems to know about being tested. He fasted for forty days in the desert, it says, and was tested by the devil there. He was tested in a garden before he was nailed on a cross - and "Massa Jesus" is now just about to be road tested on the basic ow writings about him. They are not accurate, for they were written down long after he was gone, so he has neither approved of the gospels or edited them. And the gospels diverge widely on important issues, so the matierial to judge Jesus by, is far from ideal: it was just written by guys who allegedly had the Holy Ghost of Truth . . . and the results do not stand critical textual tests from our time.
      If you doubt the practice of getting to know another by his or her outpourings, that is OK. In 1944 the Swiss psychiatrist Ludwig Binswanger wrote a whole book on a lonely women he had not met, The Case of Ellen West. He analysed her from her diary outpourings, without ever having met her. Erik H. Erikson did about the same with Martin Luther; he has written a book about him. "We will follow Luther through the crisis of his youth, . . . to the first manifestation of his originality . . . I could have avoided those methodological uncertainties and impurities which will undoubtely occur . . . we may have to risk that bit of impurity." [Yml 15-16]
      Testing unmet and little-known guys thus has famous exponents. But that is not the same as saying the method is ideal. Far from it. The danger is to "judge a book by its cover", to judge a diary writer by her diary outputs. There is a difference between the two. There is obviously much more to a writer than his writing, and it should be taken into account as well. By the way, to digress a little, the American psychologist Carl R. Rogers felt angry with how Ellen was treated, and suggested she would not have killed herself if she had been able to be treated by him, rather than being driven into isolation and estrangement. [Wb 164-79]
      In the case of Jesus we do not have letters and diary notes by him, only four gospels and letters that tell this illegitimate child felt greatly misunderstood, lonely and forsaken on a cross, and often put words in the mouth of God, so to speak. The gospel writers were said to have the Holy Spirit of Truth, who Jesus commissioned to remind of all he said. The versions differ anyway even after they were edited. And that is how we have his teachings.
      In testing mental sides of others, we have to decide how valid the test can be. Validity is "traditionally defined as the degree to which a test actually measures whatever it purports to measure." How reliable the test is, is another important facet. "A test is reliable to the extent that it measures consistently", it is pointed out. [Ebu "psychological testing"]
      Here we study "the Bwana" in the light of a central, diagnostic test from The American Psychiatric Association. Below are quotations from the 3rd edition, commonly known as DSM-III-R, with added comments. Perhaps you should be told in advance that diagnosing mental disorders and abilities is not always as clear-cut as in this case. And there are many other "check lists of mental disorders and the like to run through as well. But this little will do.
      Dr. Tollak Sirnes has written books about mental health and psychopaths. They have no normal sense of shame. They lie shamelessly and disregard others, their property, their lives, their heart feelings, and what they own. They are most often beyond the reach of help, but are good at feigning, and very often know how to play on the kindness and goodness of others to the end of giving them hell. The psychopaths may not be healed, and are very good at deceiving others for long. Therefore, the professor says, it is a mistake to try to help such cases, to stick to it with them, to forgive and get abused and get worsened conditions. We do well to try and avoid the "God-ilk", thus.
      Now we set out to diagnose someone by way of a diagnostic test. The personality disorder that is laid bare, is thought to be one of the mild ones, and many may improve from this one. It is psychopaths that are the dangerous loonies. They can lie to others, cause slaughter on their victims, their homes, and children, as the case may be. [Toh]
      Watch out for Jesus and his ilk. He could be termed a cold-blooded psycho too. In fact, he was called insane and possessed and executed among "other criminals".
      So far so good, thought "all the Jews" who had preferred a robber to him at the time.

"There are other mental illnesses to judge him by too"

We will not give you details and references from the scripture in the list. Find them yourself. Suffice to say here that Jesus was called insane, blasphemous and demon-possessed and publicly executed as a criminal against contemporary law.
      As part of a Great Tyrant Scheme, did he stand up as a whipper of people in the Roman Empire after he had served his turn as a "whipping boy"? The fact is that four millions of them were killed in Colosseum alone, and there were many other theatres in the empire around the Mediterranean Ocean.
      The dictating Jesus has not finished yet, the believers say. He will come and "whip more, more, and even better" is the credo of most believers. Their faith is that "the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky." [Matthew 24:30] Interestingly, the Second Coming is a time for mourning. Do not look forward to being hated either.
      Further, the gospels contain very many hints that he had a marked obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, but that is not all of it. There are other mental illnesses to judge him by too, just as the mind doctors in Norway, Denmark and Sweden do. Banding and branding with Jesus must be bad to the degree that "birds of a feather (and also ill sheep) flock together".
      When it comes to mental disorders and derangements, things are seldom clear-cut. What an expert has to do, is to base his wary analysis on quite typical conduct more than stray sayings, of course. Recurrent actions do speak louder than words. As for words, often-repeated words should carry more weight than stray ones. There could be exceptions to that, though. The Good Doctor uses the hallmarks of the checklist and counts hits as he sees them. If he is very qualified, he masters to weigh at least some of the parameters too. If not, the rough estimate is that over five markings on the list seem to "make Jesus qualified" as a psychopathic ass - inflicting torture on innocents and the like. When the Jesus you hear of scores on at least five points of the list, beware.
      The Jews that condemned him to death and rather would have a highwayman saved, might have said he suffered from a compulsive mental disorder and put him in an asylum back then, but there were not qualified diagnostics and nurses around, it may be said with much assurance.
      Here the main point is that if you want to diagnose him and others better, more safely and properly, try to weigh the different scores on the measurement scale - in addition to and often over and above a "yes!" to that "he wanted "be ye perfect as his Father (who was like himself, he says) and inflexible enough to get himself crucified". That is a main criterion, the heading, so to speak for this kind of disorder. Jesus looks greatly marked by submission harshness, excessive and in part morbid morality (cut off your hand if it offends you mentally and such things); and strong wants and demands for control of those around him.
      We seem to have a nasty one here. "Why do you call me good?" he keeps asking through the gospel . . . [Mark 10:18]
      Well, would you know!

Watch out for projections

Mind heartfelt feelings in filling in your scores of Jesus. Experience counts a lot. But watch out for the snag of having given yourself away, that is, of having projected good sides to your own id onto Jesus. You think he is good and great, because you project natural id that was reserved for parent figures too, onto a stranger who looks like a maniac, but who is hailed by agreements contrary to written evidence.
      Projecting one's id away seems to be very, very common, and a reason why most churches prefer to baptise and indoctrinate children from they are infants, contrary to gospel practice as to baptism and further. Baptism of children was introduced on a large scale during the reign of Charlemagne, from the early 800s, roughly. There is nothing good to it. It has served as a basis for indoctrination and tyranny. It is not fair.

Some Typical Features

Authoriatarian megalomaniac takes

As a quip has it, "An expert is someone from out of town":. Similarly, it might take a psychometrist from another culture than a Jesus-submissive sect to assess that he scores on 7 out of 9 clues, and finalises the issue with a candid "shoo!" in the officially sanctioned ways. However, the "I am God" claimant (Jesus, in this case) has reached the status of God - held up by a public majority in many folks, and being hated by the public is something the doctor may shy away from.
      So was Jesus one more megalomaniac who thought highly about himself and wanted others do to it too? How can you find out? Authoritarian figures and especially tyrants - and a lot of those who play their "game" as conform underdogs - may be bullies. And many a bully is a coward within, it is held by many. Accordingly, fair and bright insiders could know best "where the shoe pinches". Be open to that possibility, at least. You may not get exactly the same score as an expert "from out of town", but the gospel facts add up to some great and sinister signs of a megalomaniac of inflexible, dogmatic mind, or a compulsive personality disorder. He "gambled and lost". Neighbouring peoples were to pay the price of Jesus afterwards. For if he had really atoned for the sins of all, as some so fondly thing, why on earth the millions of martyrs?

Cries for impoverishment

His salvation may seem like a trick from the book of a crook. One more reason to suspect that is that it does not contain the repeated promise of getting wealth as a sign of God's blessing and approval. Wealth (mammon) is really a good thing in a life. It fits upright, sensible people. Mark the demands of impoverishments by Jesus run contrary to God's blessings, then. One of them: "I will keep my covenant with you. You will still be eating last year's harvest when you will have to move it out to make room for the new [Lev 26:9-10]." See also Deut 30:16-17; 31:29 etc.]

Tips for performing the test (above)

When using the items of a test like the one above, what we are doing is to allot scores to someone. Ideas and sentiments that were scattered, can be unified by such an approach, to the end that we get a much better phenomenological grasp on things that are ill defined or difficult to get to grips with at first. Feel free to divide your responses a little bit better than yes-no if you please. This makes weighing the scores much more sensible, and not much more difficult. It can be fun too.
      Five different responses, such as "Yes indeed! Yes. Neutral or perhaps. No. Blatant no!" may do the work. Give them the numbers 5-4-3-2-1 and add up. This interesting practice is basically subjective. But when several persons apply this Likert scale to the road test of Jesus, the end result is more inter-subjectivity, which can be helpful. Much depends on

• Knowing the one investigated, or gospel statements. Be aware that faith is not knowledge, and often opposes it.
• The mind level, brightness, stupidity and clarity of the ones who study him;
• What the test takers have been told about Jesus already, and so on.

People differ; allow for it and see to sound precautions in time.
      Branding by unqualified people does amount to Sachlichkeit in this scenario. Laypersons should refrain from labelling one another satanic and blasphemous and insane - Jesus should have learnt that too. He was treated as it in his day, and hanged on a cross till he died.
      It is only wisdom (sensible) to stay carefully away from someone you suspect to be apsychopath after living among his or her adherents and faking followers and studying that one for years.

Look into the diagnostic skeleton first

Before you diagnose someone beware of possible complications that are or can become involved. [

Antisocial Personality Disorder. Doggedly callous in his relationships, making martyrs out of people when there is no need for it.

For different cultures it may be necessary to develop specific sets of criteria as to social norms, rules and obligations. For diagnosing most of the subtypes listed below, clear evidence is usually required of the presence of at least three of the traits or behaviours given. [Source: American Psychiatric Association. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. 4th ed., 1994]
      Fifteen percent of the US population suffers from mental illness. Only one-third of people with severe mental illness are ever treated. More than two-thirds are never treated. Therapists often disagree about diagnoses. The same individual may get a different diagnosis depending on which therapist he/she sees, and therapists do not use any internationally accepted, standardized way of making a diagnosis.
      There is an internationally accepted standard for psychiatric diagnosis. It is called the European ICD-10 system. This diagnostic system (and its twin, the "DSM-IV" (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Fourth Revision, by the American Psychiatric Association) has proven validity and reliability. All psychiatric research now is based on this diagnostic system. Hence, it is possible to decrease the problem of diagnostic confusion.
      Most mentally ill persons deny they are ill, do not accept that they are ill. Nor should healthy ones accept being wrongly labeled and wrongly diagnosed.
      A confidential computerised record could help, a private diary, or self-diagnosis. In this case we have the four gospels and the set of diagnostic criteria to help us. [LINK]

How Paranoid was Jesus toward the End?

A try - Overview

1. Inappropriate thoughts of self-maiming, self-impoverishments and so on. - YES

2. Excessive worries not pertaining to real life: Doomsday that did not come as the gospel says it would: YES

A. Compulsions

1. Repetitive conducts. Going up to Jerusalem to get into trouble. Ordering others about fervently, and instroducing stiff rules for others to follow. YES

2. Aiming at preventing something dreaded. He wanted to prevent some doom of God over Israel and Jerusalem by getting sacrificed after his original mission was over. He was not realistic in the least. A couple of goats could have replaced him each year, his "Daddy's Law" said, and Jesus said it was to be valid. [Lev. 16] - YES, DEFINITELY

B. Excessive and unreasonable commands to his disciples made most of them drop him, the gospels say. Add self-maining, self-impoverishing commands and silly non-resistance to evil and assault and being plundered to the list. YES. OBVIOUSLY

C. Time-consuming compulsions estranged him from his family and functioning at large. YES, DEFINITELY.

E. The person does not recognize that the obsessions and compulsions are excessive or unreasonable, etc.. History proved him wrong about the end of the world soon, his mission of saving Jews was clearly out of line with how Jehovah had instituted his religion, where a couple of goats were all that was needed for yearly atonement in such a culture, and so on. YES.

IN SUM: I find seven good points to confirm that Jesus had an obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), and just three such points are enough to maintain he has crossed the line -

What to do with such ones around? Call an ambulance.




Literature  
      Ebu: Encyclopaedia Britannica. Encyclopaedia Britannica 2008 Ultimate Reference Suite DVD. London: Encyclopaedia Britannica, 2008.
      Eksy: May, Rollo, ed. Eksistensiell psykologi. Oslo: Gyldendal, 1971. (Existential Psychology, New York: Random House, 1961).
      Toh: Sirnes, Tollak. - at vi skal elske hverandre (- that we shall love each other). Oslo: Gyldendal, 1968.
      Wb: Carl R. Rogers. A Way of Being. New York: Houghton Mifflin, 1995: 164-79
      Yml: Erik Homburger Erikson. Young Man Luther: A Study in Psychoanalysis and History. New York: Norton 1962.



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