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Bhagavan Krishna - 4
- Mohammed Ali's "I'm the Greatest"
- How Many Christian Krishna Avatars Do We Have To Have to Feel Well?
- Tacticians T
- About Cunning Avatars
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Mohammed Ali's "I'm the greatest"
Indian mythology is complex. One reason is that in ancient texts, various gods intermingle and call themselves the greatest, one by one. The eminent scholar Max Müller (1823-1900) coined the word henotheism that signals that if the god in question is a funnel into the one divine sea of godhood, each may have a right to call himself the greatest. But "Many later authors prefer the term monolatry—which is the worship of one god, whether or not the existence of other deities is posited." [Ebu "monotheism"]It is not like Mohammed Ali, formerly Cassius Clay. He as a self-made "I'm the greatest!" in the ring in his day. He was a boxer. This may remind us of the saying:
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words never will." Implied is:
"Cassius Clay may break my bones to go for the greatest, but lips will hardly do the trick." (#2.1)
How many Christian Krishna avatars do we have to have to feel unwell?
Shyama Lahiri (1828-95) intimated that Babaji was Krishna one way or another - and he himself too. According to recently surfaced yogi lore in the matter, Babaji was born Nagaraj and later took on the name Babaji, which means 'revered father'. If he was the reborn Sri Krishna too, it is just as hard to gainsay as prove these days, but to grow on in candid ways on top of what you were to become, is much.And then Babaji is himself also - with the perhaps overlooked identity of a kidnapped Tamilian born in AD 203 and still going strong, yogis tell. That faith has to be fixed among modern Babaji-believers.
It could be that SRF has many Krishnas to venerate: Krishna Babaji may be one, or he is neglected today; Maybe also Kalki, the apocalyptic Vishnu-avatar to come. Others too who call themselves krishnas seem missing on the SRF altars. And the third inaugurated Krishna of SRF wasn't there in the start. An image to worship is furnisned today, but some time before 1970 there were the four India-born gurus around Jesus Christ in the guru scenario and on SRF altars. Thus, many members before ca. 1968 did not have to pledge unconditional devotion to Krishna and still get Kriya [MORE].
What is more - on Internet the brave Shyama Lahiri (1828-95) claims he can also be Kali - and that woman is the destroyer of man and universe. (Cf. No.77.) What is he then? Is he himself too?
- Victims of old plots can be confused by old tricks that make silly and bring ruin.
Tacticians
Brave heart: Who play it as tacticians are just holy after that
The novel M5 study is hereby shown. What is
presented might be a plot, and done in a way that you could grin over at first meeting -
a lot depends on you here. And we may bear in mind that an M5 is not a tick tack toe
study, but a masked and blurred such one. That is what you get.A
Hare
Krishna altar worship is hardly set up in real Christianity, but in Bramble Garden it's
found
"Plenty of false play is what someone like me prefers," said the fox (or
coyote). He was given up to much collective imagination in folk tales. "Mark my words,
there's room for more, gentlemen. Here we go: Even if Yogananda in his autobiography said Babaji was ever in union with Christ Jesus and had planned salvation of the world with him [Pa] there are lots of bits of this jig-saw puzzle that hardly fits in anyhow. We have to talk major bits, central parts and fit canon.
At the start four Indian gurus were launched as gurus around Jesus Christ - they "had to" be the wise men of the gospel [See Ak] - reborn and all that, according to Yogananda, who is revered as an avatar in these days, as alternative religion has swollen on and on. Of Babaji it has been said he's Krishna. We're to expect a kind of Superman ceremonials from the teachings that gurus purport to help us by - and in a short time. It often happens.
Inside the garden of brambles we're faced with Christian Krishna avatars. Now, can a Christian have Hindu gurus that call themselves avatars also? Must he be put to rigorous idol-worship to fit in - a bit lenient in the first decades? - You see the Farm in the first decades omitted Sri Krishna altar worship.
Who are just? Shyama Lahiri said he was Krishna, and that the Old Father, meaning Babaji, was Krishna. And esoteric mentions hardly mean what they say - it is surprisingly often that way.
Now, I've met directors in high finance that pray to "good master Babaji", that seeing eye, to name a few. That faith has to be fixed much and well to survive against competitors on that peculiar market - the faith business of the USA is a great market. And many people may get into it just to help us, let's grant. ¤
Although many SRF members of the old days did not have to worship Krishna, they got Kriya and by that entered Elysium, it is held. Kriya-Elysium is had by nearly dying, and you ca not be afraid to go on and on this way - and for the record: clever kriya gasping is not exactly like choking oneself. Some of those who take it up, may not appear very odd or old at all. These things obviously have to do with well accomplished marketing in the biggest sense of that word.
And now comes the sad part of the clarifying tale: There is a sport going on in some circles: Murderers can confuse victims by smooth talk. Some may not appear very odd or old at all. These things obviously have to do with marketing of items.
B There may
be ways out of many a pucker, and it may lie dormant or masked by figurative ways in
works that speak to the community's collective imagination.
"PLENTY OF false play is what someone
like me prefers in these believe-me waters," said the quick Baloo. He turned into a giant
fisher a bit later. He learnt some of those tricks under the snowy mountains."If you're horrible deep inside, you can take lots of these hints or suggestions to heart, and learn to bluff a lot on your own, just to stand up as Easter morning avatar - whatever. Superman was given only to ceremonial-collective imagination, whereas the raw Danish frog avatar, the sharkadeva avatar, the quick-witted giant weasel guru and mystical freshwater avatar would seem missing on the SRF altars the world over unless and until some more clipped idol photos and worshipped idols are added later. Mark my words, there's room for more, if only we proceed carefully, on and on. I think so."
When the whisky is in, the wit is out. Do not laugh at all the gurus that say they mean to help you. ¤¤ (M5 #3.1)
About cunning avatars
THE INDIAN God Vishnu's avatars are "descents", often called "incarnations". They're descents or emanations of a part of that "god-box" into some animal or human form - allegedly supporting the forces of good. ¤Clh 61.Vishnus can at times be interpreted symbolically. There's internal evidence in other Hindu scriptures that such practice has been wide-spread and still goes on, more or less. For example, the very old and long book Yoga Vasistha [Su; Yv] is a Hindu work that present the Indian epic Ramayana [Ra] as the outer coat of an inner quest that is told of in the other book.
What is more, Rama is thought of as an incarnation of Vishnu (he too). If you are forced to believe, do it to your own benefit. Discern between and mingle handsome short-range benefits, middle-range benefits and long-range benefits to win the day on an all-round plan. Why not? If we do not assert our deep sides, their needs and so on, and do it regularly, according to plan, others may take advantage of us. Some come in sheep's clothing and go on to exploit and scorn you for your kindness. There's that risk. Listening to the top-dog serving side and choosing something better than being complementary to it could be a good thing. ¤On kkk.
A great lad can come out of a little house. - Norwegian proverb. Let's face it: US President Abraham Lincoln did it too, and loved a good story, like Mark Twain.
You know, the world is designed for the ruthless on top.
In the realms of nature only fearful animals live on.
The sage is unkind; he treats the people like sacrificial straw-dogs. - Dao De Jing, Ch. 5.
The higher up they get, the more cosmic to be aware of.
Try to investigate what you come up with.
A descent of divinity can be due to a fall into animal form - it is held to be a harsh punishment in Manu Samhita [Mux], the Institutes of Vishnu [Viom] and other sources.
In the long run imbalances may take your life.
"Love also yourself" could be the overlooked Christ-command here. - See Mark 2:31.
Man has been crowned with honour and glory. - See Hebrews 2:6-8.
Useless gods
insult the Lord. - Deuteronomy 31:6.
So choose a good life. - See
Deuteronomy 30:15-19.
Yes, do greater works than wail and sob in the Garden (See Mark 14:31-41) - go for better living on an all-round plan. - [Cf. John 14:12]
What is more, if you get punished for a low-graded birth beneath your level, you're not a real giver where you come. As for Krishna, he finished off by permitting all his descendants to get drowned. This is described in Srimad Bhagavatam and the Mahabharata. Dimmit and van Buitenen also gives a survey. ¤Clh.
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Notes
[1] Good books by Dr. Eric Berne - eminent psychiatrist of North America - What do you say after you say hello? (Bantam) and "Games people play (Penguin) should not be ignored when browsing other good TA books, such as the eminent Choosing success by Dorothy Jongeward and Philip Sayer. Dr. Berne's outlook most often help, in our opinion.[2] Kriyananda (J. Donald Walthers), originator of Ananda Church of Self-Realization and community - In the Greek epic, the Odyssey by Homer, the crew of Odyssey is turned into a herd of swine by "gambit magic" from the hands of Circe in the great work of art by Homer, the Odyssey.
[3] (a) Rumble-Mumble Goosegg (Cf. the fairy tale "Strong John") is a quite alarming hulk, maybe a halfway titanic Dane or Norwegian - whatever. He loses respect for all authorities, both the king and Old Nick. There is a cosy folk tale about him around. (b) Markandeya is the hero of the Hindu book Markandeya Purana. It is a very old book. He lives very irregularly. The book portrays him as the best, above formalised wrong and right at times. This means, in other words, that to become hung up in given ethics can signify "I'm outsmarted".
[4 etc.] Why live-out-ridicule the basic command: "Adam and Eve, multiply"? It is often far from the future farm hen's willy-nilly intent to live up to the historical task and truly honour her much too much caged parents in such a basic way.
[5] I still like Dr. Berne's "lengthened" form of psychoanalysis. Books: Pla; Bnn.
[6] Shastri, J, main ed: Siva Purana. Vols. 1-4. Banarsidass. India. ...
[7] Pla. Bnn: Moms and dads. Professional boss. Others. 2-3.
[8] "Told above": It could be by me, but you do not know, do you?
[9] See the book The ten cosmic powers. etc.
[10] Clh.
[11] Atkinson, Richard et al: Introduction to psychology, 9th ed. Harcourt, Jivanovitch and Brace. P. 467
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